[x3d-public] X3D Examples Metaverse

[John Carlson]

So the idea would be bring a supply of metaverse view templates.   Each
collection would contain one or more metaverse types (or all metaverse
types).

It would be good to have a metaverse encoding, if not using existing.  I’m
imagining some metaverses as SVG/HTML and X3D/HTML.

What is a piece of the grand metaverse called?

John

On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 2:18 AM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com> wrote:

> More thoughts.  X3DJSAIL already provides excellent facilities for
> converting XML to scenegraph (X3D and HTML).
>
> We could add “3D malls” of items
> in the X3D examples folders instead of just providing thumbnail images.
>
> An idea would be to complement existing HTML  with SVG and more X3D.   I’m
> imagining some kind of map of the examples in SVG with annotations where
> each example is.
>
> We could create example metaverse or metaverses for each collection in the
> x3d example archive.
>
> In other words, let’s bring our examples into a metaverse.
>
>  Note:  I recommend 1 metaverse per collection folder.
>
> Either Celestial, Geospatial, or Shopping would be ok.
>
> John
>
> On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 1:52 AM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I’ve had a few more thoughts on this:
>>
>> Create a “3D Mall” view for each level.  Look for a 3D File Explorer view.
>>
>> Create an “Apollonean Gasket” view—fractal circles.   Not unlike JSON-LD
>> view from some time ago.  Provide zooming like VIPR programming language.
>>
>> Create a geospatial view (Patrick Cozzi, Clement Igonet), Cesium.
>>
>> Create a celestial view.(Sanden)
>>
>> Create a forest/net/graph view, based on existing:
>> https://coderextreme.net/x3dschema/
>>
>> Create a Smalltalk class browser view.
>>
>> Do something with web browser view.  Maybe WebVOWL.
>>
>> Provide an interface common to all views and an interface common to all
>> models and an interface common to all controllers.
>>
>> Create or find file system model.
>>
>> Create or find modelling system model.
>>
>> Create or find planning system model.
>>
>> Create or find programming language model.  Either Abstract Syntax Tree
>> (AST) or intermediate representation (IR) from compilers.
>>
>> Do something with DOM.  Perhaps use DOM as frontend to scenegraph views.
>>   As far as we can, use DOM as AST or IR.
>>
>> I’m hoping Christoph Valentin might contribute.
>>
>> I know there’s a lot of work so perhaps we can work out mappings from DOM
>> (model) to scenegraph (view?) (Don is probably most qualified).
>>
>> I would l Iike to work on the model side of things and maybe a bit of
>> view stuff.
>>
>> Specifically, I’d like to create a DOM to either render 3d models in
>> SysML or other programming language. (I know there are some out there for
>> UML)
>>
>> If the semantics folks want to add ideas here, cool.
>>
>> But first, I’d like to lay out some interfaces for model,view,controller
>> of top-most triple.
>>
>> Perhaps someone can recommend Croquet?
>>
>> Christoph?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 10:38 PM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone created 3D online structures from
>>> https://dmoz-odp.org/ (Open Directory?)
>>>
>>> It should be possible with current WWW technology. We’re not trying to
>>> displace the WWW.
>>>
>>> Could we collect geospatial and/or temporal data and present it as well?
>>>
>>> Can we come up with a better presentation than earth or maps?  Something
>>> more exotic?
>>>
>>> We were thinking of a forest of trees, perhaps swaying until the mouse
>>> gets near.
>>>
>>> What Shapes or geometry might people suggest?
>>>
>>> I’m imagining someone did this 25 years ago?
>>>
>>> I’m going to look for an archive of data rather than scraping.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>
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