[x3d-public] Turning on and off simultaneous animations individually

Sun Feb 2 02:11:42 PST 2025

What I really think I want to do is send a set_fraction = 0 event to all
ScalarInterpolators, and have that controlled by a menu selection.

John

On Sat, Feb 1, 2025 at 8:44 PM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think what I will do is create a reset button to send startTime to all
> TimeSensors, enabled or not.
>
> John
>
> On Sat, Feb 1, 2025 at 5:55 PM Andreas Plesch <andreasplesch at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Both x-ite and x3dom behave the same. Each animation is independent and
>> resets individually after it is stopped and then restarted.
>>
>> It seems you aim for another behaviour with some dependency between
>> animations.
>>
>> -Andreas
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 1, 2025 at 4:35 PM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm trying very hard to look at this, but I'm not seeing the animation
>>> reset when one turns an animation off.  Perhaps I should try X3DOM?
>>>
>>>
>>> https://create3000.github.io/x_ite/playground/?url=https://gist.githubusercontent.com/andreasplesch/6fd2fd0b0f745b3549b74150b7752d89/raw/c02637b602f9241c9ea73b5ad859ab330c071e25/toggleReset.x3d
>>>
>>> Trying to compare with:
>>>
>>> https://andreasplesch.github.io/Library/Viewer/index.html?url=https://gist.githubusercontent.com/andreasplesch/6fd2fd0b0f745b3549b74150b7752d89/raw/c02637b602f9241c9ea73b5ad859ab330c071e25/toggleReset.x3d
>>>
>>>
>>> If I click multiple checkboxes, AFAICT, the whole animation doesn't
>>> reset.  I want ALL animations to reset when a button is pressed in, and
>>> when any button is unpressed.
>>>
>>> This is a better link for mine:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://create3000.github.io/x_ite/playground/?url=https://raw.githubusercontent.com/coderextreme/ci2had/refs/heads/main/resources/CleanedYouClocks.x3d
>>>
>>> So probably there needs to be a global start/stop time for all enabled
>>> TimeSensors?
>>>
>>> I see you have two ProtoDeclares and I only have one.  I might be able
>>> to do something like that.
>>>
>>> Hmm!
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 1, 2025 at 2:35 PM Andreas Plesch <andreasplesch at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi John,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://gist.githubusercontent.com/andreasplesch/6fd2fd0b0f745b3549b74150b7752d89/raw/c02637b602f9241c9ea73b5ad859ab330c071e25/toggleReset.x3d
>>>>
>>>> resets the animation everytime it is restarted after stopping.
>>>>
>>>> The only change is replacing resumeTime and pauseTime with startTime
>>>> and stopTime .
>>>> Instead of a toggle button, it would be possible to have two separate
>>>> buttons, one for stopping and one for resetting.
>>>>
>>>> This may be what you are looking for, -Andreas
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 1, 2025 at 6:16 AM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Andreas,
>>>>>
>>>>> For extra credit, reset the animation each time a toggle button is
>>>>> pressed.  So far, it looks dubious without scripting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Got a reliable solution for resetting the animations?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 3:08 PM Andreas Plesch <
>>>>> andreasplesch at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi John, group,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Exploring how far one could get without X3D scripts and only using
>>>>>> event utilities, let me share an example of a panel of individually
>>>>>> controlled toggle buttons which then drive a simple assemblage of
>>>>>> individually animated spheres:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://andreasplesch.github.io/Library/Viewer/index.html?url=https://gist.githubusercontent.com/andreasplesch/6fd2fd0b0f745b3549b74150b7752d89/raw/37f94755f763ecc9a0439a0dab2f32441e8b12aa/toggleButtonExample.x3d
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://gist.github.com/andreasplesch/6fd2fd0b0f745b3549b74150b7752d89
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are two sections, one for the control panel and one for the
>>>>>> controlled assemblage. Each section has a Proto as the main building
>>>>>> block for simple reuse. The toggle button Proto is based on wrapping,
>>>>>> synced Integer and BooleanSequencers for color toggling and outputting
>>>>>> useful events corresponding to the state of the button. This is
>>>>>> probably the most useful and interesting part. Everything else is more
>>>>>> for demonstration.
>>>>>> There is also an animatedBlob Proto which shows how animations might
>>>>>> be controlled by routing events from a toggle button.
>>>>>> The animations all start out in sync after being enabled by a button
>>>>>> but then can be individually paused and resumed for arbitrarily
>>>>>> pulsating patterns.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Event utilities generally turn out to require verbose declarative
>>>>>> code, compared to logic in scripts but that can be mitigated to a good
>>>>>> extent by Protos which also help with scene structure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is one standard related question which came up for me and I
>>>>>> think that may have been raised before. The question is what the
>>>>>> value_changed should be after a Sequencer receives a first 'next'
>>>>>> event without ever having received a set_fraction or other event. In
>>>>>> this case there is not a next value because there was never any value
>>>>>> in the first place. Both x3dom and x_ite currently output the first
>>>>>> keyValue and set the first key as the current key in this case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> x_ite and x3dom work almost the same with the example. x_ite
>>>>>> immediately starts the animations where x3dom waits as intended until
>>>>>> the related Timesensors receive a first 'enabled' event. There may be
>>>>>> a simple fix for x_ite use but I could not find it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, -Andreas
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 7, 2024 at 4:37 PM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > So here’s an interesting question:  If I have the same ROUTE in two
>>>>>> different choices in a Switch, is one of them ignored?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Not that I’m going to do that.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I’m probably going to try using a Switch unless someone says that
>>>>>> ROUTEs are always active in a Switch, disagreeing with the AI.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > John
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Sat, Dec 7, 2024 at 3:29 PM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> From X3D4:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> 4.4.8.2 Routes
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Routes are not nodes.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> [snip]
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Redundant routing is ignored. If an X3D file repeats a routing
>>>>>> path, the second and subsequent identical routes are ignored. This also
>>>>>> applies for routes created dynamically using the X3D SAI.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Can someone clarify how statements are affected by Switches?  Can
>>>>>> I have different choices of a PROTO inside a Switch?  Effectively changing
>>>>>> ProtoBody content at run-time???
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> John
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Sat, Dec 7, 2024 at 2:40 PM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Would it be possible to put an animation’s ROUTEs in a Switch
>>>>>> that could be toggled on and off with a boolean toggle?
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Google AI says:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Yes, you can absolutely put "ROUTE" nodes within a "Switch" node
>>>>>> in X3D; in fact, it's a common practice to use them together to dynamically
>>>>>> control which set of connections (via ROUTE) are active depending on which
>>>>>> child node of the Switch is currently selected.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> I didn’t realize that statements were affected by Switch.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> John
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Sat, Dec 7, 2024 at 1:43 PM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> We are dealing with multiple facial animations.  The thing we
>>>>>> want to do is combine animations using HAnimDisplacers.  Currently, our
>>>>>> animations go from key = 0 to key = 1, (weight = 0 to weight = 1) and each
>>>>>> animation is controlled by a single TimeSensor that we enable or disable.
>>>>>> What we want to do is enable multiple facial animations, yet retain a
>>>>>> single TimeSensor.  I have done something with enabling multiple time
>>>>>> sensors all at the same time.  So, ideally, we could toggle each facial
>>>>>> animation individually.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Note that one can have multiple simultaneous HAnimDisplacer
>>>>>> animations on a single Coordinate, they all add up just fine.  There’s no
>>>>>> single animation per body part requirement as there is in other places in
>>>>>> X3D (according to Michalis, from my understanding).
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> I don’t currently know how to individually toggle multiple
>>>>>> animations without toggling multiple TimeSensors, so assistance is
>>>>>> welcome!  Indeed, a multiple toggle button X3D example would be welcome
>>>>>> (hopefully, something we can put in a scenegraph).
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Here’s what we currently have
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/coderextreme/ci2had/blob/main/resources/SingleMenuJin.x3d
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> As you can see, lots of duplication.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Viewed best in FreeWRL and Sunrize/X_ITE.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Andreas Plesch
>>>>>> Waltham, MA 02453
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Andreas Plesch
>>>> Waltham, MA 02453
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Andreas Plesch
>> Waltham, MA 02453
>>
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