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RE: [x3d-public] SVG -> X3D?
The visualisation is of a hierarchal state machine, so sublayers are
actually sublayers of the state machine. The current tools present
these as individual 2D diagrams and it is literally up to the user to
imagine how they fit together... with 3D they need not strain their
brains... (much more details are in the paper).
The visualisation is generated from just one tool (via the API), other
tools export SVG. So if I can convert SVG->X3D, it will easily extend
the test cases possible (my ultimate goal is to test for benefit).
I am thinking that a student summer project here (RMIT) creating a
SVG->X3D converter, would be of benefit to me and the wider X3D
community (the tool would be open source of course).
Cheers,
Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: steve guynup [mailto:exposedfield@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 30 October 2008 7:38 AM
> To: 'x3d-public'; Paul McIntosh
> Subject: RE: [x3d-public] SVG -> X3D?
>
> Interesting visualization.
>
> I wonder...
> As you flip to the side view you gain a view that shows I
> presume shows processes layered (grouped) by time. Still
> there's no key, or information in that side view to guide my
> cognition. I mean from the side its just flat lines. Could
> you attach labels to the sides (or a key or something along
> the edge to let me know what the value / meaning of their position
is?
>
> Or do you have something else in mind.
>
> As is, its fun - but I don't think the average viewer can
> track the value of the side view as easily as they need to.
>
>
> regards
> Steve
>
> PS I tried extruding a diagram along an axis of time, then
> wrapped values from far, near, and inside views... Not
> especially effective, but fun in a rough kinda way. Its on
> the bottom of this portfolio page
> http://noel.pd.org/~thatguy/portfolio/indexMyVirtual.html
>
> Sadly the 3D version takes an older cortona plugin to work,
> its linked through the main page...
>
>
>
>
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> --- On Tue, 10/28/08, Paul McIntosh
> <paul.mcintosh@internetscooter.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Paul McIntosh <paul.mcintosh@internetscooter.com>
> > Subject: RE: [x3d-public] SVG -> X3D?
> > To: "'x3d-public'" <x3d-public@web3d.org>
> > Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 7:40 AM All you have stated are
> > possible...
> >
> > the main reason is converting diagrams from UML tools that
> support SVG
> > output into a form that can be used for 3D UML (e.g.
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcgQajTXVrA and
> >
>
http://www.x3d-uml.org/Publications/2008_X3D-UML:_3D_UML_State_Machine
> > _Diagrams). So text + lines are the main features to be converted.
> >
> > Note: "2.5 D" is not suitable (i.e. creating a image and
> projecting it
> > on a plane) as the next step is to animate individual items (such
as
> > lines) within the diagram.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tom Sparks [mailto:tom_a_sparks@yahoo.com.au]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 28 October 2008 8:16 PM
> > > To: Paul McIntosh; x3d-public
> > > Subject: Re: [x3d-public] SVG -> X3D?
> > >
> > > what is the main reason: architecture, floor plans,
> > etc and
> > > you want to create a 3d extruded version in X3D?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Paul McIntosh
> > <paul.mcintosh@internetscooter.com>
> > > To: x3d-public <x3d-public@web3d.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 28 October, 2008 8:29:54 PM
> > > Subject: [x3d-public] SVG -> X3D?
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I am wondering if there is a converter from SVG to
> > X3D?
> > >
> > > If not, there is a possibility I can get a student to
> > create
> > > a converter as an (Australian) Summer project.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Paul
> > > --
> > > Paul McIntosh
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