RE: [www-vrml] Re: [x3d-public] Web3D Zeitgeist - most popular format, one year on.

["John Richardson" <richards@spawar.navy.mil>]

Hello,

If U3D is just a variant of Shockwave3D, then consider the following:

1) Adobe owns Macromedia.
2) Adobe owns PDF.

So, why would they not put their new acquisition's technology into one of
their market leading flagship products.

Adobe probably wanted to do this years ago, presumably with Atmosphere (VET
is the technology). VET competed with Shockwave3D. I assume that Adobe then
decided that Shockwave3D was better or they could control the licensing of
Shockwave3D or both.

Now, what does this have to do with Web3D?

Devil's advocate answer: Web3D is delivering 3-D content on the web. If you
send a 3-D PDF via the web it is Web3D.

Anti-Devils advocate retort: Well fine, but I was hoping that I could do a
distributed CFD simulation in my PDF document (or among them). Please let me
know when that happens. Oh, I'd also like to have a multiuser chat between
PDF's. Please have Adobe send me an email when that happens. Oh, did I
mention that it had to work on the MAC. Yes, the MAC, make it work on the
MAC...Hah, Hah, Hah.......

NOTE: I hope 3-D PDF's take off and gain in popularity. PDF's are great. 3-D
in PDF's is really cool. Even if it is PC only, still cool and groovy. I
also hope that Adobe can integrate Director, Shockwave3D and the web in
PDF's or some other solution so they can perform Director web based
simulations. Director is very powerful and cross platform (works on the
MAC).

Oh, and could Adobe take on KML with U3D. What a glorious battle that would
be. Please, could someone prod Adobe into that......just for my amusement.

Lastly, thanks to Viveka for exploding this discusion onto the web in a
fantastic groovy totally hip thread....

John F. Richardson

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-x3d-public@web3d.org [mailto:owner-x3d-public@web3d.org]On
Behalf Of Joshua Smith
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 10:35 AM
To: John Carlson
Cc: X3D Graphics public mailing list
Subject: Re: [www-vrml] Re: [x3d-public] Web3D Zeitgeist - most popular
format, one year on.



On Sep 27, 2005, at 2:29 AM, John Carlson wrote:

>
>> Make standard web 3D as trouble free to use as a normal web page and
>> then there will be a wider adoption. As long as installation is also
>> relatively simple.
>
> My prediction:  Microsoft will win the Web 3D war.

My prediction, nobody will "win" the Web 3D war, because:
1) There is no web 3D war;
2) Like the "browser war", it looked like MS won, and now they're
starting to lose ground... these things never end.

However, if you're placing bets, I think the smart money is on Adobe
taking the lead as the web 3D content delivery platform of choice.  The
response we've gotten from customers for our new 3D PDF offerings is
amazing.  Marketing folks REALLY like PDF, and the REALLY REALLY like
interactive 3D content in those PDFs.  (For some cool examples, look at
http://www.kaon.com/3DPDF.html ; for a commercial deployment, see
http://www.sun.com/nc/05q3/products/x4100.jsp )

Sure would have been cool if Adobe had adopted X3D instead of U3D.  Oh
well...

-Joshua Smith
  CTO/Alpha Geek
  jesmith@kaon.com
  Kaon Interactive Inc.
  Tel. (978) 823-0111 x111

  http://www.kaon.com/

Kaon Interactive
Web-Enabled Sales Solutions for Product Companies

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