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Re: [x3d-public] Web3D Zeitgeist - most popular format, one year on.



Hello.  I am new to this list and found the information help full (I would like total number of sites held in the database from yr2000 vs amount in yr2005, if the figure increases then I would expect the VRML amount increase by the same persentage - however its clear that VRML increased by more then it should of - but what would I know)...
 
While searching http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=site%3Adell.com+3d+&meta= I found (from Australia searching the www) that Hit #9 describes that Google does Know - they know all, and have it defined as an appropate link for the results given at this time (today) with the text below:
 
Kaon Interactive Activate!3D Viewer
Java is currently not available on your browser. Please enable Java or upgrade to the latest version of Netscape Navigator or Microsoft Internet Explorer to ...
www.dell.com/html/emea/ virtualtours/inspiron/inspn500m.html - 2k - Cached - Similar pages
 
Again my many thanks again for the information.
Jason Robinson
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: [x3d-public] Web3D Zeitgeist - most popular format, one year on.

For some reason, these absurd exercises really get under my skin...

In August 2004 I was wondering about the relative popularity of various Web3D formats. No hard data was available. So I turned as one does in such a situation, to Google.

Gee, let's see. I wonder what the "relative popularity" of various viruses are? Blaster: 6.5M, Netsky: 0.6M, Kournikova: 2.3M; there you have it, Blaster is much more "popular" than Kournikova...

Here's what your numbers say to me...

1) Of the free formats that students and hobbyists have lots of questions and really bad demos, 10-year-old VRML has a lot more references than 4-year-old X3D. What a shock. [[You should go visit the top 100 hits for VRML, by the way. You'll quickly see that it is a wasteland of ancient demos, dead links, and pages that have absolutely nothing to do with VRML (hit #6... Computer Associates! huh?)]]

2) As google & friends continue to index more obscure parts of the web, the number of hits on everything continues to increase.

3) When you search for the name of an obscure underlying technology (U3D) you get a lot fewer hits than you get if you search for the extremely popular formats that use that technology ("3D PDF").

If you really want to know what technology people use to deploy web 3D, it is a much harder exercise than some silly googlewhacking. For example, search google for site:dell.com 3d and you'll see that we have created dozens, maybe hundreds, of interactive web 3D experiences at dell. However, because Dell is a commercial enterprise with their own branding to worry about, you are going to have to dig to find out what technology made that 3D appear (for example, right click on the applet). Google is hard-pressed to realize that Kaon's technology produced those pages.

The same would be true if you went crawling the web looking for Viewpoint 3D or Cult 3D or Shockwave 3D or any other 3D format that is actually used in the commercial web.

Despite the 4 million hits you found, I'm hard pressed to think of a single example of VRML being used in a commercial application...

-Joshua Smith
CTO/Alpha Geek
jesmith@kaon.com
Kaon Interactive Inc.
Tel. (978) 823-0111 x111

http://www.kaon.com/

Kaon Interactive
Web-Enabled Sales Solutions for Product Companies

On Sep 25, 2005, at 11:27 AM, Viveka Weiley wrote:

Hi all,

I've repeated my survey of google hits for the major Web3D formats.
The results surprised me...

http://www.karmanaut.com/virtuality/zeitgeist/

Regards,

V.
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