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Re: [www-vrml] Time Sensors and Background Nodes -- territory vs maps



Oh. OK. I mistook.

What I'd love is to have a kind of index world that takes you to all the
VRML worlds out there, and do it in a multiuser fashion. The old VNet
had some promise in this way. I'm not sure how possible it becomes with
VNet+ or ABNet. Perhaps someone here might be able to illuminate this
question.

Cheers,

	- Miriam

Clayton Cottingham wrote:
Not sure if I was clear on some of my idea


This project has an underlying goal of ubiquitousness (sic?)

I want an app that anyone can d/l log onto and be in the verse aka BE IN the
web

The territory already exists! It's the network.

LOL hiding right in front of us!!!


The map is but drawing lines of relation between ip points and visualizing in an appropriate way... aka network mapping {probably with bsp of some sort}


There is nothing new here but a shift in paradigms

SL {second life} relies on membership login and then a captive audience that
is allowed to manipulate the one and only environment

Now what I am talking about is basically a way of navigating the web
completely in 3d


People are mapping the net already and using vrml to display these images
http://www.opte.org/

There is nothing arcane, sinister or nuclear about this, just a difference
in approach


So hypothetically, one could go online and load up this 3d browser you would be 'in' as well as 'on' the web!

Not some pocket verse such as SL is


To continue: one could designate a special port on a/your server that would be serve custom 3d content for that server this would then graft onto the existing network map

{ see above opte link for map examples }



The client app would be able to serve the above custom 3d on said port as
well as help update the opte maps ,


Its seti like in that way it maps the internet... using multiple clients to
help









-----Original Message-----
From: owner-www-vrml@web3d.org [mailto:owner-www-vrml@web3d.org] On Behalf
Of Len Bullard
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 3:19 PM
To: mim@miriam-english.org; 'www-vrml'
Subject: RE: [www-vrml] Time Sensors and Background Nodes

Those are fabulous worlds!

Yanno, it ain't decent that with as many really stunning VRML worlds as
there are out there that SL gets all the publicity.  OTOH, as a musician I
learned long ago that only money matters.  As long as SL is the big member
site, it will get the press, but wow, there are some extremely impressive
VRML worlds out there when one goes looking.  SL gets credit for 'inventing
the metaverse' but it's been right here the whole time.

We ought to take Clayton up on the 'map of the VRMLverse' idea so people can
roam around without having to know where each author's stuff is at.

len

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-www-vrml@web3d.org [mailto:owner-www-vrml@web3d.org] On Behalf
Of Miriam English

Incidentally, have you seen the clouds in Stuart (StanOgden'sNeck) William's world Innsmouth? Impressive! Texture mapped moving clouds in a moonlight night.
http://virtuality3d.co.uk/p_worlds.html




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