[www-vrml] Re: [x3d-public] ' X3D is still too complicated but ...'

[Peter Griffith <peter@3dworlds.ca>]

Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:
> I would too.  That is how the Blaxxun worlds work.  
> Work offline on an avatar then submit it for 
> validation.  That makes more sense to me.
>
> Are they providing library objects as starter 
> kits or use-until?  Is there any way to take 
> the avatar home with you?

The avatar is a simple Poser humanoid figure (P2 model)that has been 
retexture-mapped.

It is available as a wavefront .obj file for download along with the 
texture template. So you can create/texture clothing offline.

I have actually taken the same humanoid figure and created a vrml 
version using thyme's Seamless3d to create mesh animation (requires 
blaxxun/bitmanagement).

In SL, avatar animations can be created offline using Poser, saving the 
animations as bvh files, and uploading these (at a cost). The animations 
from Poser don't always work quite the same in SL, so you can run into 
the tedium again.

Interestingly enough, my vrml version of the P2 humanoid can also be 
animated from bvh files. If you have a blaxxun/bitmanagement contact 
vrml viewer installed

http://www.3dworlds.ca/seamless/basewoman1run.wrl

(I screwed up the elbows while converting/animating her ;-) ... but it 
was my first attempt)

> IOW, is the deal that one pays for the privilege 
> to build for Second Life and they keep the goods 
> when you go?  That would be too much like renting 
> an apartment and buying appliances for it that 
> become the property of the landlord.

You just pay for uploads as you used to be able to join for free. So you 
can build objects for free ... only if you want your own original 
textures/animations (not the freebie kits) do you pay.

When you build or script whatever, an owner is set for the item. And you 
can then sell it. Ownership limits/denies transfer, altering, copying etc

For the average person gives them control over content they create. 
However, does SL have ways around that ownership? Probably.

More and more, I come to the conclusion that things that are done in SL 
can be done with vrml/x3d/blaxxun server. In fact individual builders 
have done many of the things ... just no-one has ever put them all 
together. And the blaxxun interface is kind of clunky after all these years.

Only thing I've come across that might be difficult is 
transfer/adding/deleting of an animation 'on-the-fly'. Which gets back 
to badgirl's insisting on lots of 'clica'. The ubiquitous animation 
balls in SL are the clica ;-)

Peter 'griff' Griffith :)

> len
>
>
> From: Peter Griffith [mailto:peter@3dworlds.ca]
>
> I have tried it in SL .... personally I do not like it. I find it is a 
> pain to use .
>
> Simple example:
>
> If you want to apply a texture (you have made) to something you have 
> built (as opposed to an avatar) then upload the texture (at a cost) 
> apply it. If not quite right, then try to change it offline and 
> re-upload (and repay). Repeat until happy. Tedious.
>
> Much prefer building offline, testing then uploading once when happy.
>
> Peter 'griff the hat' Griffith ;-)

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