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RE: [www-vrml] Java jsai help



 
 
to put an end to this thread i dbl checked everything today
 
i uninstalled all my sun and M$ java and reinstalled from the ground up
 
it wasnt until i put in the msjvm that everything started working again
 
I think what i didnt realize before was that i didnt fully uninstall the ms jvm and thought by switching to the sun jvm it wasnt using any M$ code
 
I was wrong
 
 
thankfully this project is internal aka this code is only gonna be used by me....
 
 
doesnt solve the fact that in order to use java you have to go through a lot of headaches to get it to work
 
not something an end user would be exactly happy about
 
that said i like java for its ease of programming once its set up
 
nothing else to learn
 
 
BTW all the examples worked just fine through Xj3D without any need for the jvm's  :)
 
 
 
:|
 
 
 
 
 


From: owner-www-vrml@web3d.org [mailto:owner-www-vrml@web3d.org] On Behalf Of Clayton Cottingham
Sent: October 4, 2004 10:10 AM
To: 'chris'
Cc: 'Pyth7'; www-vrml@web3d.org
Subject: RE: [www-vrml] Java jsai help

first of all we are talking SAI not EAI
 
2nd i do agree with you! for some things server client communicatons is the right thing to do
 
but i always ask myself  can i do this without leaving this file
 
if the answer is yes then i would rather do it that
 
unfortunately the project i am working on would not be solved by going server client model as it deals with bringing midi in and permutating that in vrml
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


From: owner-www-vrml@web3d.org [mailto:owner-www-vrml@web3d.org] On Behalf Of chris
Sent: October 4, 2004 2:03 AM
To: Clayton Cottingham
Cc: 'Pyth7'; www-vrml@web3d.org
Subject: Re: [www-vrml] Java jsai help

Clayton Cottingham wrote:
And that , after the msjvm was installed, you could switch between and use
either the sun or the M$ jvm  


I think this has to do with some zip files in c:\windows\java\Packages but I
can confirm or deny nothing

I was gettign this error 
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/ms/com/Iunknown

And upon googling it I found this snippet of information:

....add the MSMQ classes in the classpath. These classes can be found in the
C:\WINNT\java\Packages directory. 


I didnt add them to the classpath but as soon as I installed the msjvm,
again ,  everything started workin again



<light rant>
What can we as a community do to solve this deployment problems??
  
use true web external communication, not EAI:
i.e. communicate with a server via createFrom, LoadURL and Anchor
using parameters in the url encoding.
It should be completely cross platform and, frankly, we can consider the web or at least a network connection to be
a fairly reliable assumption in the deployment of an application these days. 
We *are* talking  *web*3d after all.

cheers,

chris

Oh right lets all move to .net?? LMAO

IMH^HO This is what is killing the end users perception of vrml being
anything but untested beta code

You cant expect end users to go through these sort of deployment issues

</light rant?>


Im ready to help everyone work this one out, as usual



Clay





  
-----Original Message-----
From: Pyth7 [mailto:Pyth7@comcast.net] 
Sent: October 4, 2004 12:51 AM
To: Clayton Cottingham; www-vrml@web3d.org
Subject: Re: [www-vrml] Java jsai help

However, we also seemed to find -but not conclusively- that 
sp2 put the final nails into Java EAI coffin.
Anyone with sp2 installed care to confirm this at any of 
these fine examples:
http://empyrean.cofa.unsw.edu.au/Beta.html

http://www.vrspace.org

http://www.sevenemeraldtablets.net/Seven_Emerald_Tablets/Beta.html

http://www.lucidspace.com/

http://yamanakanash.net/vnet-client/stresstest_no2b.html

thanx
Russ Kinter


----- Original Message -----
From: "Clayton Cottingham" <drfrog@telus.net>
To: "'Clayton Cottingham'" <drfrog@telus.net>; "'VRML list'"
<www-vrml@web3d.org>
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 2:58 AM
Subject: RE: [www-vrml] Java jsai help


    
Pyth helped me out on this.. Seems like I had to install 
      
the ms jvm to 
    
get anyting to run in cortonoa sai with a javaclass

But this seems contrary to the other times ive tried

Anyways

It still seems like a pretty oblique deployment path for an end user



      
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-www-vrml@web3d.org
[mailto:owner-www-vrml@web3d.org] On Behalf Of Clayton Cottingham
Sent: October 3, 2004 10:08 PM
To: 'VRML list'
Subject: [www-vrml] Java jsai help

Every since I installed sp2 I cant seem to get jsai java 
        
examples to 
    
work, my own or online examples


I assume this is because sp2 wont allow for arbitrary bytecode to 
execute in a plugin/active x control


Anyone know any more info on this?



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