RE: [www-vrml] Tim BL Is Baffled, Too

["Clayton Cottingham" <drfrog@telus.net>]

Len 

so does saying that microsoft is THE answer

That .net will save x3d

This  attitude that this doesn't concern X3d  that this is navel gazing is
erroneous

These things have never been properly addressed

Things like marketing and promotion of web3d have never been organized, the
monies arent there....which means the market isnt there or ready

Microsoft make some great products

But they are not, and never will be the be all and end all of computing




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bullard, Claude L (Len) [mailto:len.bullard@intergraph.com] 
> Sent: October 1, 2004 10:39 AM
> To: 'Clayton Cottingham'; 'chris'; 'Tony Parisi'
> Cc: 'VRML list'
> Subject: RE: [www-vrml] Tim BL Is Baffled, Too
> 
> I'm not cross-posting this to X3D.   I suspect those 
> working with X3D don't care too much about this kind of navel 
> gazing at this time.
> 
> X3D has what VRML did not:
> 
> 1.  An open source implementation that can serve as a reference.
> 2.  Work on conformance testing.
> 3.  A tightly focused design team with real implementation 
> credibility.
> 4.  More bandwidth to support faster downloads.
> 5.  A real extensibility story with ongoing work.
> 
> The picture is better for X3D than it was for VRML.   VRML 
> didn't quite make it but its successor has a better shot. 
> Still, it needs applications.   VRML stumped its toe in the 
> zeal for cyberspace/Snowcrash apps.   That was the wrong 
> end of the complexity curve to be taking baby steps on. 
> Every time the VRMLers overreached the technology, they 
> gave it a black eye.   Every e-mail wasted on insulting 
> Microsoft instead of working with them to get a better 
> platform for 3D implementation hurt it's chances of getting 
> better support on the desktop.  Every response to web service 
> support that came back as "its not our problem" hurt its 
> credibility as a useful rendering language for distributed 
> applications.  Every "XML sucks" email robbed the VRML 
> community of credibility with the rest of the web developers.
> 
> We did it to ourselves.  Now it is time to get on with life 
> and with development of web-based real time 3D applications, 
> a notch or two above banner ads.  We can't erode the 
> confidence of customers we don't have. 
> 
> len
> 
> 
> From: owner-www-vrml@web3d.org [mailto:owner-www-vrml@web3d.org]On
> Behalf Of Clayton Cottingham
> 
> Great points!
> 
> All of which errodes customer confidence 
> 
> Nothing new here, points ive been stressing for years now
> 


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