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RE: [www-vrml] SP2 vs. The Plugins: Anchor Node Bug
Maybe a feature, but without SP2 it works fine in flux, bs-contact,
parallelgraphics, so where is the wall which blocks the request? The SP2
Firewall is deactivated.
For me it´s a step backward. Is section 9.4.1 a "SP2 conformance statement"
;-)
Regards
Kay Melzer
Dipl.Inform.(FH)
FH-Dortmund - University of applied sciences
Abteilung medizin-technische Informatik Department of medical computer
sciences
Dortmund - Germany
Business contact:
FH-Dortmund, Abtlg. med. techn. Informatik
Kay Melzer - Hauspostkasten 52
Emil-Figge-Str. 42
44227 Dortmund
EMail: kay.melzer@fh-dortmund.de
Web: www.fhdo.edu.tf
ICQ: 51094929
Phone: +49 179 1354278
Fax: +49 179 1354278
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-www-vrml@web3d.org
> [mailto:owner-www-vrml@web3d.org] On Behalf Of Goncalo N M de Carvalho
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 12:17 PM
> To: Kay Melzer; 'www-vrml'
> Subject: RE: [www-vrml] SP2 vs. The Plugins: Anchor Node Bug
>
>
> It's a feature, not a bug. From Section 9.4.1
>
> "If non-X3D data is retrieved, the browser shall determine
> how to handle that data; typically, it will be passed to an
> appropriate non-X3D browser."
>
> Typically but not necessarilly.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Goncalo
>
> --- Kay Melzer <research@kays-gadgets.de> wrote:
>
> > There is another BUG(?!):
> > Every anchor node to a html (non-3d file) in a wrl/x3d file is
> > filtered in Flux, BS-Contact and Blaxxun (in IE) after
> clicking onto
> > the reffering 3d-object in the 3d space.
> > No error sound, no hint....
> > Is there a solution for this problem?
> >
> > Kay Melzer
> >
> > Dipl.Inform.(FH)
> > Creator of MedWorld3D
> > FH-Dortmund - University of applied sciences Abteilung
> > medizin-technische Informatik Department of medical
> computer sciences
> > Dortmund - Germany
> >
> >
> > Business contact:
> > FH-Dortmund, Abtlg. med. techn. Informatik Kay Melzer -
> Hauspostkasten
> > 52 Emil-Figge-Str. 42
> > 44227 Dortmund
> > EMail: kay.melzer@fh-dortmund.de
> > Web: www.fhdo.edu.tf
> > Web: www.3d-node.com
> > ICQ: 51094929
> > Phone: +49 179 1354278
> > Fax: +49 179 1354278
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-www-vrml@web3d.org
> > > [mailto:owner-www-vrml@web3d.org] On Behalf Of
> > George Birbilis
> > > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 10:46 AM
> > > To: Paul Aslin; 'www-vrml'
> > > Subject: Re: [www-vrml] SP2 vs. The Plugins
> > >
> > > > Oh BTW the missing status bar in SP1 or later
> > version of XP is
> > > > actually a bug, the bar comes and goes at will.
> > Which is not a good
> > > > thing when there is where the security "padlock"
> > > > icon is displayed.
> > >
> > > it's available from View menu of IE, but maybe if
> > a page
> > > writes to the status bar via JavaScript, IE shows
> > the
> > > statusbar automatically if it's hidden (haven't
> > tried it).
> > > BTW, a page can hide the statusbar when they open
> > a new HTML
> > > window (these are called "window decorations" in
> > Netscape
> > > terminology I think). I agree the "padlock" and
> > other
> > > status/feedback icons are a problem, but web
> > browsers were
> > > designed like that originally cause Netscape
> > envisioned them
> > > as an application platform that would replace
> > classic desktop
> > > OS GUIs, like Windows. Few custom app GUI
> > designers would
> > > like to have that bar at the bottom of their
> > window
> > >
> > > > > That was already a case and so is with signed
> > applets
> > > etc. You can't
> > > > > split that in two prompts, one before
> > downloading the
> > > resource and
> > > > > one after (once the OS checked the file
> > downloaded OK, is signed
> > > > > with a valid certificate, has not been
> > tampered with etc.). You
> > > > > can't split that in two files either, you have
> > to prompt the user
> > > > > ONCE before installing. The activeX control is
> > thus considered an
> > > > > integral part of the page functionality and
> > the whole page isn't
> > > > > considered yet downloaded till that downloads
> > > >
> > > > But this is exactly what happens when you
> > download an .exe
> > > program of
> > > > a website or CD !
> > > > Firstly it asks if you wish to 'run' or 'save'
> > the file. If
> > > you then
> > > > choose 'run' it downloads the file and then
> > presents the install
> > > > wizard etc.
> > >
> > > In the case you mention (download a file), you're
> > in fact
> > > prompted only once if you select to "run" the
> > file, not
> > > twice. The executable you run may not show any GUI
> > etc. and
> > > just run. There's no install wizard, it just
> > happens that
> > > most stuff you download, AFTER THEY RUN, show a
> > GUI since
> > > they're self-extractable archives that contain an
> installation GUI
> > > (much friendlier than unix
> > tarballs, but
> > > it's executable code that before you run you don't
> > know what it is).
> > >
> > > BTW, it seems XP SP2 now marks executables
> > downloaded from
> > > the internet somehow in your system (maybe in
> > metainfo at the
> > > filesystem, don't suppose it modifies the .EXE
> > cause it would
> > > break some installers if it did so [they'd think
> > the EXE was
> > > cracked]). Whenever you run those executables in
> > the future,
> > > it shows a dialog saying this was downloaded from
> > the net, it
> > > checks if they're digitally signed or not, if the
> > signature
> > > is valid (file not tampered with) and aks if
> > you're sure you
> > > want to run them (plus has option to not prompt
> > for that
> > > specific file again in the future). Much better
> > for new users
> > > in security means. In previous Windows versions
> > (e.g.
> > > on a Win2000), I had reported to MS that it wasn't
> > even
> > > checking if a file was signed and tampered with
> > (invalid
> > > signature) to warn you before you run that file
> > (you had to
> > > right click the file yourself before running it
> > and see its
> > > property pages to check if there was a signature
> > and if it
> > > was valid which was too much for everyday use)
> > >
> > > > > (place the site in
> > > > > non-trusted zone to avoid the download in the
> > first place if you
> > > > > care about speed, or change the settings for
> > the
> > > "Internet zone" and
> > > > > make it NEVER download ActiveX controls is you
> > want
> > > speedup and are
> > > > > sure you won't need and will not want to use
> > ActiveX
> > > controls ever)
> > > >
> > > > Try writing a step by step tutorial on the
> > process of doing
> > > this and
> > > > you will realize that this is not exactly a user
> > friendly task.
> > >
> > > very easy:
> > >
> > > 1) click on the address bar (if not visible,
> > select menu
> > > option View/Toolbars/Address bar)
> > > 2) click at the first character of the host part
> > of the URL
> > > address (e.g.
> > > the first "w" char of www.someserver.com)
> > > 3) shift+click at the last character of the host
> > part of the
> > > URL address (e.g. the last "m" char of
> > www.someserver.com) to
> > > select that part
> > > 4) right click on the selected URL address part
> > and select
> > > "Copy" from the popup menu
> > > 5) go to "Tools/Internet Options..." menu
> > > 6) click on the "Security" tab
> > > 7) click on "Restricted sites"
> > > 8) press the "Default Level" button so that you
> > see the
> > > reading "High" at the "Security level" scrollbar
> > > 9) press the "Sites..." button (a new dialog will
> > open)
> > > 10) right click in the textbox labeled "Add this
> > website to
> > > the zone:" and select "Paste" from the popup menu
> > > 11) press the "Add" button
> > > 12) press OK to close the "Restricted sites"
> > dialog
> > > 13) press OK to close the "Internet Options"
> > dialog
> >
> === message truncated ===
>
>
>
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