Re: [www-vrml] SP2 vs. The Plugins

[Paul Aslin <fabricatorgeneral@yahoo.com>]

--- George Birbilis <birbilis@kagi.com> wrote:

> > > The aforementioned CNet piece on Service Pack 2. Just
> > > when you thought it
> > > was safe to get back into web banners!
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://news.com.com/SP2+vs.+the+plug-ins/2100-1032_3-5345881.html?tag=nefd.l
> > > ede
> >
> > I really don't think microsoft have realized what the
> real
> > problems are. (I haven't gotton SP2 yet so not sure
> what
> > they have fixed)


[snip]

Oh BTW the missing status bar in SP1 or later version of XP
is actually a bug, the bar comes and goes at will. Which is
not a good thing when there is where the security "padlock"
icon is displayed.

> > I just love the way they have bundled Flash 6 with SP2,
> > NOT!
> >
> > Flash is plain Evil, simply because people are obsessed
> > with using CAB install for Flash ads, banners, menues
> and
> > other useless trash. Sure you can choose not to accept
> the
> > installation but this option only appears AFTER the
> > download has finished, thusly slowing down the loading
> of
> > pages.
> 
> That was already a case and so is with signed applets
> etc. You can't split
> that in two prompts, one before downloading the resource
> and one after (once
> the OS checked the file downloaded OK, is signed with a
> valid certificate,
> has not been tampered with etc.). You can't split that in
> two files either,
> you have to prompt the user ONCE before installing. The
> activeX control is
> thus considered an integral part of the page
> functionality and the whole
> page isn't considered yet downloaded till that downloads

But this is exactly what happens when you download an .exe
program of a website or CD !
Firstly it asks if you wish to 'run' or 'save' the file. If
you then choose 'run' it downloads the file and then
presents the install wizard etc.

> (place the site in
> non-trusted zone to avoid the download in the first place
> if you care about
> speed, or change the settings for the "Internet zone" and
> make it NEVER
> download ActiveX controls is you want speedup and are
> sure you won't need
> and will not want to use ActiveX controls ever)

Try writing a step by step tutorial on the process of doing
this and you will realize that this is not exactly a user
friendly task.

I think you have missed my point here which is simply...
... why is it so hard to actually stop certain ActiveX
controls from downloading.

And by this I mean for the average computer user, who
firstly may not know just which website the control was
downloaded from, and be willing to dig through the
numerious places of Internet Option to figure out what
changes what. This is suppost to be as simple as possible,
its not rocket science.

Let just say for example CompanyZ brings out an ActiveX
control which contains a bug that causes problems for
certain computers, do you think the media will be able to
explain just how the prevent this ActiveX control from
bwing downloaded.

> I do agree though that while a page downloads one
> shouldn't see a blank
> window but something better INSIDE the window (not at
> some status bar or at
> some rotating browser icon)

well this area would be a good place to put information
about the plugin itself, perhaps a jpg the content author
supplies to be shown untill the plugin is ready. 


	
		
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