[x3d-public] OLAP scenes

Konstantin Smirnov konstantin.e.smirnov at gmail.com
Sat Apr 9 11:49:35 PDT 2022


Thanks!
I've been learning x3d for 2 years almost, so have skills to create scenes.
Interfaces  good things to study, I am looking for C# new ones and new
tricks of new versions.

Now I am working on some tasks with interval mathematics, for example
electric grids. My idea is to visualise a grid with possibility of real
time analytical processing clicking on the grid objects.

For example, see consumed power by regions and types of stations, with on
the fly modeling on constraint programming.

The problem is how to increase interest in such real time solutions with
x3d, so people understand that it can work faster.

It's possible to click on objects and see stats with filters. For example,
stations with big load and revenue. Then we can change parameters, click on
objects, calculate models, see new visual results and record them to
databases.
So this is connected to my AI question also

Now I am thinking about American grid systems, so my work is dedicated to
creating modeling and analytical, visualization solutions. There can be
millions of rows, and more. Fast processing is required, but main is to
create tools for outages detecting.

Maybe there are good scenes with grids.
If constraint programming can be integrated into a scene, then it gives
fast processing capabilities for interactive work, and the task is to make
people understand that it can be faster than usual methods and useful.

Maybe there are good scenes with such AI?

I think that OLAP is very useful for fast understanding of grids,
especially with 3d scenes and modeling. But how to enhance the success of
this interval constraint programming method?...

The budget can be big, for me it's important to create a good work, that
people will understand, and accept. I could make such examples but looking
for a way to get this direction accepted.

I made some examples, maybe there are some concurring approaches? Interval
math with OLAP and x3d is what I am doing now as a research. How to make
this a successful solution, especially in US? :)



сб, 9 апр. 2022 г., 20:31 Joseph D Williams <joedwil at earthlink.net>:

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>    - any new examples …
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> There is no better database structural design and no better event system
> for realtime interactive access to live data than the authortime/runtime
> system used by x3d, from the vrml. If you want to learn about the best,
> most versatile, and best-suited for delivering reliable control of your
> data, then study x3d scene graph and event graph. Specifically, the x3d
> abstract nodes, and the x3d abstract event interface.
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> Figure some about how you use nodes and statements to make a scene work:
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> X3D Abstract : Node Definitions
> <https://www.web3d.org/content/x3d-v33-abstract-specification>
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> https://www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/19775-1/V4.0/index.html
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> Figure some about how you make the scene work using internal and external
> programming interface:
> X3D Abstract : Scene Access Interface (SAI)
> <https://www.web3d.org/content/x3d-scene-access-interface-edition-v33>
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> https://www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/19775-2/V3.3/index.html
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> Thanks for looking into applications of x3d. I’m sure OLAP has concepts
> useful with x3d. For example, suppose you had a table of data representing
> some sample group that has things, categories of things and properties of
> those things, maybe along with relationships between the things and
> properties. If you wanted to have a scene that produces some set of
> interactive multiple media representations of parts or all of that table,
> then you might use olap to retrieve essentially 2D data from some olap
> database, deliver it to the scene, then you choose to characterize data
> elements using parameterized visual and interactive features, and apply
> this to our nD+1 database of x3d so you can play with it. With topics like
> chemistry, physics, keeping track of what is connected to what, where,
> when, and how … and other important stuff, just recall that with x3d you
> can make an x3d scene with nodes to produce a virtual simulation for
> anything, any combination of things and nothings, in your time and anytime,
> where you are and anywhere and everywhere, in any D you compose, depending
> upon the data you choose to use.
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>
>    - examples of integration OLAP with graphics? Some new examples with
>    analytics, fast
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> The old questions: How much data you got? How fast do you wanna go?
> Budget?
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> Thanks,
>
> Joe
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>
>
> *From: *Konstantin Smirnov <konstantin.e.smirnov at gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Saturday, April 9, 2022 12:11 AM
> *To: *X3D-Public <x3d-public at web3d.org>
> *Subject: *[x3d-public] OLAP scenes
>
>
>
> Hi
>
> Are there any new examples of integration OLAP with graphics? Some new
> examples with analytics, fast
>
>
>
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